I had a great chinwag with Martin Morel recently for his Time For Heroes podcasts. he has some brilliant guests on there – many of whom have connections to the ’00s indie music scene – and it meant a lot for me to be approached. although, despite my profile through Skint & Demoralised, it was actually the Nationwide ads that brought me to Martin’s attention. so there ya go.

Time For Heroes episode 32 with poet Matt Abbott

anyway – you can listen to the episode on Spotify here, and I dare say it’ll also be available through the other main podcast providers. if you like the sound of the pod, you can follow Time For Heroes on Twitter and Instagram. hope you enjoy it! ta very much.

poet, educator & activist

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